Logan Aldridge On Peloton And Adapting Fitness For All Abilities

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Jillian Curwin: Hi everyone. Welcome to Always Looking Up, the podcast where no one is overlooked, and height is only a number, never a limit, hosted by me, Jillian Curwin. Each week I'll be having a conversation about what it is like to live in a world that is not necessarily designed for you.

In honor of Saturday having been International Day of Persons with Disability, I sat down with Logan Aldridge. Exactly a year ago, Peloton announced that Logan was joining the team as one of its newest strength instructors and adaptive training specialist. After sharing his story, we discussed his mentality of “It’s just an arm”, the importance of creating accessible fitness solutions for all abilities, how he and Peloton are bringing the disabled community onto the platform, and so much more. Let's get into it.

Hi, Logan.

Logan Aldridge: Hey, Jillian. How are you?

Jillian Curwin: I'm good. How are you?

Logan Aldridge: Fantastic.

Jillian Curwin: I am very excited to be having you on the podcast. This is a long time coming. And it's extra special that I'm having you on now because this episode will be going live right after International Persons with Dwarf-... Persons with Disabilities Day, and that is the anniversary of when you launched on Peloton. So it's all very exciting. So I'm very excited to have you on for this very special episode.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, so excited. Thank you for having me. You're exactly right. Long overdue, but, you know, quite serendipitous with the timing and how it's going to come full year circle. But yeah, super glad to connect with you. So great to see you in your world here on the podcast.

Jillian Curwin: It was just, it was meant to be, it was meant to happen now. So it's perfect. For my listeners who may not know who you are, why don't you tell them a little bit about yourself?

Logan Aldridge: Oh, my goodness. That's… how long do we have? [laughter] I could go on and on. I guess the high level, cover version is I'm born and raised in Raleigh, North Carolina. All my family's from there. I'm super into athletic sports, fitness. At the age of 13, I lost my arm in a boating accident. I was left handed. Really shifted my perspective in a way.I saw, not only the world, but how to pursue things, goals, desires, challenges, how to overcome them. And then really just, lived this life of this mantra and mentality of it's just an arm, trying to do all the things I would have done with two went on to play all different sports, wakeboarding, lacrosse, all the activities that I like, extreme activities, surfing, snowboarding, all that sort of stuff. Fell in love with fitness after all of those sports, and then college led in to me wanting to enable and empower people, every physical body as well as everybody, to be able to have access to their pursuit of fitness, health, wellness, whatever that might mean for them. And I was dedicated to that for many years. Long story short, that led to Peloton finding me and saying, “Hey, we think you could be an instructor here,” offering me an awesome opportunity to come up here to New York City, last January, and become a peloton instructor. So, yeah, it's almost a year in the making now so far. But that's the high level overview of Logan without me stealing this conversation and talking for the next hour, just about me.

Jillian Curwin: Well, that's one kind of the point of this podcast.

Logan Aldridge: Oh, okay, okay.

Jillian Curwin: We're going to dive deep into a lot of what you just said. But I want to start by asking, how do you define being disabled?

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, great question. Anything outside the standard of an able bodied individual. So it's a varying, it's a variance of ability. I think the word disabled sometimes, some folks have different expectations kind of, connotations with what that word means, being derogatory or empowering. Frankly, I don't, I don't have any opinion either way. I think it's just a term that's necessary in order to define certain characteristics or things. But I don't focus on the “dis” part. Instead, it's the ability that we do have. So, I view that as like varying ability. So, if your abilities differ, if it differs from the typical standard able-bodied individual, then your, you have a varying ability. You have a condition, an impairment, something to consider, a disability. But I don't think it carries a negative, a negative connotation. It's necessary and used in the…when it, when used in the appropriate context it’s, it's a good definition. And that's kind of how I see it.

Jillian Curwin: That’s very interesting you consider it like varying abilities. I don't think I've heard that perspective, and I think it's true. And I think, especially for, you know, because the disabled community is so diverse, that we all within just have these varying abilities of what we can or can't do. And I think that really captures kind of, what we look like. And again, it's not… each individual takes it, whether it's a positive or negative thing, but I think it is also just a term that defines who we are and what we are capable of.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right. You know, I think, at the core of it, what I try to do with language, with selecting how you speak to or speak of someone, if, if we can, if we can come from an empowering place, a positive, empowering place, I think that's the first appropriate step to structuring intention of your words. And so, I like to use that time varying ability because, you’re exactly right, I've worked with and met and know so many people that have a disability. But, if you lined everyone up and you had it, it's so different. Everyone is so different. The considerations, many of them are, which are completely invisible.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: Walking down the street, you wouldn't even notice or see dis[ability]. You would say, “That's a totally fine, able-bodied individual,” but there's so much more to it than that. So I think it's just that concept for me, really broad stroke that really encompasses everyone that has an ability that is varied from the standard in any way.

Jillian Curwin: I agree. And I'm curious because you, there's a part, you know, in your disability life experience, you were born non-disabled and became disabled as a teenager. So I'm curious, like, what was that like for you?

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, well, I think I'm so lucky that I had this perspective and this, this opportunity to develop, you know? At 13, I mean, 13’s really young to like, really, you know, I'm getting on, gosh, I'm 31 now. So I'm getting to the point where I'm like, wow, 13. I was a baby. But I look back at the time and I feel like 13, I was like this thriving young kid, young future, young adult, like doing all these responsible things. But no, you know, look back, you're 13. You’ve barely figured out how to, what life is and all this stuff.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: But, you know, before that, I have clear, vivid memories of having both arms. Every dream I have to this day, when I'm asleep and I recall a dream, I have two arms in the dream every dream. It's very strange to me. But…

Jillian Curwin: Interesting.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah. Because obviously I've lived well over half my life now with one arm…

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: More with one arm than with two. So, I don't have like, that phantom sensation that the arm is there and stuff. But in dreams it's like, it's there and it's active. But from just the holistic perspective I, that's what made it so profound. And that's what I think made this lightbulb moment happen, this, this epiphany to me. Because I was the person that would judge people by looking at, you know, before 13, I'm the person that would see someone in a wheelchair and say, oh, that sucks. Who knows what happened to them?

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: They, I wonder if they're going to be okay. Yeah. You know, seeing an amputee, I remember being like, nine or ten years old in Florida, I think, I was…[inaudible] such a vivid memory and I saw someone for the first time with a brachial plexus injury. So the limb, basically, an arm was paralyzed. And I think they had had this for most of their life. It was an older gentleman. So that limb almost it, almost looked like a deflated limb, so much atrophy and paralysis of the limb. And I remember just being, in a rude way, you know, staring, being like, wow, what is going on with that? I've never seen anything like that. So it was this massive, uneducated perspective of what people with disabilities are, how, how, how to treat them frankly.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: So, wow, a wake up call happened in a big way at 13. And I was immediately experiencing those sorts of judgments, those sorts of expectations being placed on me. And I don't think from a negative or, you know, mal-intended perspective, but just, just, just the way it was. You know? Just, you lost an arm, you know, friends and family and everyone, everyone was so sorry, so sorry. Everyone…

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: “I'm so sorry. This is awful. I wish this didn't happen.” And I was like, Oh, this is such…. And then a lot of assumptions were happening. Like, you know, we, you can still be a part of the lacrosse team, Logan. Maybe you'd be the ball boy or something. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are people just assuming my future? Like, telling me now, because of this, now this is how it has to be. And I was like, whoa, this is…why? Why? Like, the question I kept asking, which is why? Why do you think that? Why do you think I can't do that? Why wouldn't I be able to learn how to write with my right hand? I'm only 13. Like, these are obvious, obvious potential possibilities for me. But it seemed like from other folks, whether it was the medical professionals or friends and family just trying to be supportive, but in a way of like, recognizing that this is a different ability now than I was before with two arms. I think some, some subliminal expectations came out that really made me like, whoa, I don't think, you don't need to expect that little of me. I, I think I can do more than that. So that was that, that perspective and that was that mentality of not I want to prove people wrong, not like I want to do things in spite of your expectation of me. That was never it. But it brought up this, this, this reality that like, whoa, if I don't try things and show myself that I'm more capable, than these folks see me, then I'm going to morph into my environment. I'm going to become who that, my support system, my friends, my family, my community, who they see me as, who they want me to be. And that was, at the initial time, you know, someone that just lost an arm that is now going to really struggle to accomplish things. They may need help. They may need assistance in this way, in this way, in this way. And that's all fine and okay if that's necessary. But I thought, I think we're jumping to a big conclusion here. I think life will be different and I'll do things maybe differently, but I can still get them done and I can still do them my way and feel very empowered and accomplished by, by doing them.

So that was kind of the the, the, the epiphany, the lightbulb moment that I had and, and realized that in my own naivete growing up, I was like, how…? Okay, wow, if this is what's happening to my friends and family with me, what's it like for people with other dis[abilities]? What's it like if I was missing a leg as well? What if I was also missing a leg with my arm? So, I used that as a tool to, to kind of practice that principle of like, it could always be worse, be grateful for what you have. That's what the mentality of it's just an arm was. I remember being in the pediatric ICU and like, needing to go to the bathroom, and I would hop. I would get out of the, the hospital bed and pretend like I lost a leg as well, because it would immediately just shift my brain to being like, wow, this isn’t so bad. You know? It always could be worse. It always could have been worse. So that was something that I would do to practice. But I also did it to be a little bit empathetic and think about like, wow, okay, I'm going to now be embraced and a part of, whether they do it or not, I'm going to do it with the community of people with disabilities. I'm a part of that now.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: And I want to be an advocate. I want to be a voice that doesn't fixate on the disabled part, but in that, but rather shows that the human potential is a pretty remarkable thing. What we can endure and persevere is pretty incredible. And I thought to myself, how can I find examples, or learn and meet others that def-, define that, and exude that in a way that I can't and don't? And that was when I was really fortunate, at that time, to meet someone very similar to me, Bethany Hamilton. She called…

Jillian Curwin: Yes.

Logan Aldridge: While I was in the hospital, she, she called the…Actually, she called our house. My brother, my older brother at the time, was home and he came in to the hospital the next day. He said, “Hey, dude, some surfer chick called the house, left a voicemail.” I was like, “What do you mean, some surfer chick?” Like, I, I was very into surfing and I still am.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: But, at that time, I followed the circuit very closely, knew of Bethany, Alana, all, a lot of those girls very well, and was very familiar with Bethany’s story.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: Her accident happened just about nine months before mine.

Jillian Curwin: Okay.

Logan Aldridge: My brother says, “Yeah, some surfer chick called, left a voicemail saying like, she knows you're going through. She's, everything's going to be okay.” I was like, “Are you talking about Bethany Hamilton?” And he was like, “Yeah, yeah, that was her name.” I was like, “Dude, that's a huge deal. Like, oh my God.” Like you, regardless of the loss of the limb, me losing an arm, that girl was a superstar in my world.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: Like, I was devastated. I remember coming home from lacrosse practice and seeing on the news that she had just, you know, was the victim of a shark attack, and lost her arm in a shark attack. I remember seeing that and being so bummed, like, wow, couldn't believe, you know. I was hopeful that she would live.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: But then fast forward, nine months later, I'm sitting in the hospital, I'm on the opposite side of, as far away from her as you could get still being in the United States. She's in Hawaii and I was in North Carolina when my accident happened doing, not at all attacked by a beast of the ocean, but, you know, a rope being in the water, pursuing my water sport in a way that I wanted to become professional and excel, as she was doing with hers. And yeah, she reached out. And that was because my best friend at the time sent her an email just saying, “Hey…,” connecting those dots, being like, “Hey, look, ironically serendipitous that like he is over here on East Coast, you're as far on the West Coast you could be in Hawaii. Your actually happened nine months ago. Logan's been a huge follower and fan prior, and then pre-, and then throughout. He’s been staying up to date…,” and that was at that time where she was really just getting over her injury and getting back to surfing…

Jillian Curwin: Okay.

Logan Aldridge: Learning how to ride a board again. So she wasn't like, winning competitions yet, but she was back in the water surfing. I think she had won…, done well in one or two competitions at that time. So it was like, clear that she was going to be a force to reckon with in the surfing world with one arm.

But so, I revered her regardless. And so, when she called, I couldn't believe it. So my brother came and told me that news. And that day she actually called the hospital and we chatted for like, one minute. It was literally just that, just, just, you know, just a, “Hey, I'm Bethany.” “Hey, I'm Logan.” And, you know, we're talking two 13 and 14 year olds. Like how much deep conversation we're really going to have?

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah. I didn't know what to say. She didn't know what to say. It was just like, “Hey, I heard what happened. I understand. Just know, like, you're going to get through this, you're gonna get through this and everything's going to be okay.” And frankly, that's all I needed to hear. That's all I wanted to hear.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: It was exactly the right thing to hear. And instilled in me, whoa, lit the fire, completely lit the fire. And I don't know if I've reflected, or really given enough credit to that moment, but I think that was a huge catalyst in my outlook and my momentum of being like, I got this, we're gonna, I’m going to figure this out. And I think that's one of the biggest… I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky and fortunate. And not only did I have her, but I had other…Locally in the North Carolina, Raleigh area, there was a family friend who had lost his arm to cancer. Older, a dad of a friend, lost his arm to cancer. He came in to see me and he just started like, unbuttoning his pants and like, dropping his pants, and I was like, “Dude, what are you doing?” He was like, “I'm gonna show you how to tie your pants. I'm gonna show you how to pull your pants up, put on your pants, and you're going to…” I was like, “Oh! It would’ve been cool if you said that in the beginning. I didn’t know what was happening right here.” So I was, I was…and he showed me how to tie shoes.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: And the first time, you know [snapping of fingers], brains like a sponge in that environment, for me, at least it was. I was so attentive. I saw one time he showed me how to tie shoes and I was like, got it, got it. I know exactly how to tie shoes now forever with one hand. It was crazy. I think I was very proactive in that way, very lucky that I had people in my life to be this resource. Bethany, she was the motivator to show me that like, first of all, you're not alone Logan.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: Someone very similar to your desires, your goals, your aspirations, happen to them, and they're killing it. They're thriving. They're going to do really well. And granted, we’re only nine months into her now, incredible journey that she's gone on to make, a career she's gone on to make. But at that time, I knew, I knew that she was going to do those things she was setting out to do. She didn't get back surfing or win the circuit. I knew that was going to happen for her. I just was so in awe of her ability and her, her attitude, and that was massive fuel for me, you know. That was, that was so much…There was never a moment where I, I could justify in my head, well, no one knows what this is like. No one knows. Like, there was never, I couldn’t. I know that people know what this is like. I know that people have it much worse. I know that frankly, I have nothing to complain about. And that was, for me, a really positive voice to have in my head to keep me on track when things got tough and things were difficult, to keep me moving in the right direction, and know that there's this, these external folks that are still in my corners, cheering for me as much as I'm cheering for them.And that virtual community, if you will, was like massive, massive for my pursuit of trying to overcome new challenges with one arm, now, that I had never thought to attempt.

Jillian Curwin: There's so much of that story that is just absolutely incredible. I need to like, take a moment. Interestingly, you brought up like, the fact that like someone, that your dad's finally came to you in the hospital and said, “I'm going to teach you how you're going to tie your shoes now.” My mom had a similar moment with me, because I was like, the first little person that she got, that she really had to get to know, and the first little person in my family. My parents had no idea what, what this meant for me…

Logan Aldridge: Right.

Jillian Curwin: And then for them as parents. And coincidentally enough like, the person who hired my dad was a little person. And so she just asked him all like, once, you know, she's like, once he knew, like asking these questions…And I might get in trouble for revealing this story, but I think it's kind of funny of like, she was like, “Well, how do you go to the bathroom?” Because she just really didn't know.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah. Practical. 

Jillian Curwin: And he was just like, “She goes like, she's going to go to the bathroom. She's, she's going to figure it out.” And that's, I think, so much of, kind of like, what it is like, whether you're born disabled or you become disabled, you quickly and it's almost surprising like, how fast we really do figure it out, because this is our world. We now know, don't know anything, [inaudible] don't know anything different. And then this is the world that we have to live in, and we have to adapt, we have to figure it out, because nobody's going to do it for us. We'll have people who teach us, but it's still, they're not living in our bodies every day. We figure it out. And, you know, people have been doing it before us. People are going to be doing it after us. So we have both people to learn from, but also people to teach. So it's like…

Logan Aldridge: Exactly right. And, and just like rec-... you’re, I mean, I'm not trying to call your age or anything, but you're similar, we're similar in age, right?

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: You’re around…so…

Jillian Curwin: Yeah, I'm almost 28.

Logan Aldridge: Nice. Okay. So like, think about that. Honestly, that's what I think about. And you know, in today's, um, news and information, there's, there's a lot of negatives about the, how connected we are with technology. But, think about the opportunity, what is created for this community, for people who, to that exact point, maybe once you were born differently, or you dev-, something happened and now you're disabled and you're like, okay, what now? What? There weren't ,there wasn't, even 13 years or gosh, 18, 17 years ago when I lost my arm at 13, even then, you know, there wasn't like, Facebook wasn't even a thing yet.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: And it’s crazy to think about. You know, we forget, we're now so integrated with social media and these things. We think that's just been around forever. But you have to remind yourself and look back and think these, these platforms weren't there. And these have been critical tools to enabling access, to realizing you're not alone, to realizing there’s other out there, and finding the information, the how-tos. You know, that's why I'm, I love doing little videos like “How to cut your fingernails with one hand”, “How to tie your shoes with one hand”. Like, I like doing those little Instagram videos.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: Not because I think I'm, I'm brilliant at it and it's a great technique, but it's like that content, that information is hard to come by. And I think now we're at a place where it's so much more accessible. You can find incredible resources, whether it's YouTube, social media, Internet in general. But, you know, a decade or two ago, that was tough. It was tough to find. You really needed to have a network. You really needed to create a connection, a relationship with someone, to know someone, to be a mentor, a guide, a resource in the same way for your dad and his like…That's, that's so cool to hear. But it's also so great to know now we're in a place where it's at your fingertips.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: You can get into connecting with someone, or recognizing there are great resources and information available to you so quickly. And I think that's been like a big, a big subconscious motivator for me and how I can use social media, you know, obviously I do a lot of fitness on it. I do all that sort of stuff. But, how can I use it to, if someone comes across who just recently lost a limb, how can this platform be a place where they go, oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, there's a lot I can do. There's a whole world it, it is pretty bad ass to be that way. Oh, my god. Now there's like, it's, it's cool. It's cool whereas 20 years ago, it was unfortunate, you know, it was like, oh, bummer, now I think it's bad ass. I think it's people that are different, look different, have different abilities, varying abilities, I think if you can find within yourself, if your self-talk can create confidence and positivity and you can go out into the world and feel good and exude the confidence that you have within you, more people turn to you and just go, that's you're, you're making more, I believe you're making more of an impact and you're motivating people in ways that you don't even intend to or recognize that you are doing just by living your life and being like, this is me.

Jillian Curwin: Yupp.

Logan Aldridge: This is the skin that I'm in, the body that I'm in, and I love it. It's awesome. It's great. I think that's flipping the script. That's changing the whole deal. Like what? I didn't lose an arm. I just had an arm amputated. Like, yes, I didn't like, lose it though. I'm not like, lost without it. It's not like this thing that I wish I had back. I, I got a prosthetic arm, it’s really cool. I wear that. I'm learning how to wear that well, but…

Jillian Curwin: Yeah. I've been following that journey. It's incredible to watch. I’m very curious about that.

Logan Aldridge: A lot more content needs to come out about that. I did that one video…

Jillian Curwin: Yes.

Logan Aldridge: And got a lot of questions. But I, I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so thankful that that, that unforeseen, unexpected incident happened to me at the age of 13. I literally, I am. And that's not me trying to be cliché, and find the silver lining, and be like that’s the best thing that ever happened to me. But truly is, truly is. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be here with you. I wouldn't be here, at Peloton.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: I wouldn’t have all of these things would have never come to fruition. I wouldn't have the most incredible experiences, and perspective, and gotten to meet so many people that truly exude resilience, perseverance in ways that I've learned from and been inspired by had, had this not happened to me. So I think it's fantastic. You know, I think, if anybody out there is looking for an event in their life, just chop off a limb. You'll, you'll have a great time. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Don’t do that. It’s a joke. That's was an aggressive joke. But seriously, sometimes I joke around about that and it's like, that's kind of, that's kind of the reality of it. It's been a blessing, a massive blessing. And how opposite of how most people view something like that, a tragic, unfortunate incident. It wasn't [at] the time, you know?

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: It’s when we look in the rearview mirror. It’s when we look back and you're able to reflect in order to see why you are where you are, how did you get here? And then what's the future? Where, where, where can you go? What’s the future look like? And when you have that perspective, the past, the present, and the future, and you’re looking through it in the way that this, for me, you know, an incident created my disability. It's like, no, that's a great thing. That's a fantastic, I'm so glad that happened.

Jillian Curwin: Right. And I think everyone, you know, looking back at like, my younger self, like, I definitely there were moments where I was like, I wish I wasn't a little person. I wish I wasn't disabled. I wish I wasn't different. But now I can confidently say, like, I wouldn't be talking to you right now. This podcast would not exist. I wouldn't be using Instagram and the blog as my platforms to be an advocate in the dwarfism and disabled communities if I wasn't a dwarf, if I wasn't disabled. So, while, and I think like, it's so much like society expects us to like, view our disability as something negative. And there are times of course where, yeah, things are hard, but it's often not our bodies that are creating the challenges, it's the society and the environment around us. But like again, again, that's why, you know, with the content I create, you know, particularly with my fitness content, it's showing, you know, you said that you didn't want to prove people wrong. And like, for me, it's more proving that disability belongs. Disability, you know, especially like, in fitness where I think we see this idealized perfect body, and disability has never belonged in that until, you know, I think you're definitely changing that, we're going to jump into Peloton in a second. But like, yeah, that's really, with the content I do, and I do the crazy things to just kind of show that disability, you know, we can, like we belong in that space. Because I still in, I've been really like, hard on my fitness journey for over ten years now but I feel like I'm still often the only little person, only disabled person in the room, in the gym.

Logan Aldridge: Right.

Jillian Curwin: And I want to change that.

Logan Aldridge: Right. And you're exactly right. And when we, to put some of that in context for why it's may be frustrating from our perspective, or it's like, where is what, where, where are these folks? They should be here.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: Because when you know the, the population and the statistic of it, it should be nearly one in four people you see, in the United States alone…

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: That would have a disability, a noticeable disability. And, you know, you don't see that. It's not seen. Is that like, it's about a little over 61 million, here in the United States, that comes out to almost one in four people. So it's like, it's there. The statistic, the population exists, but how do we empower them to be seen, to be seen in a way that they're confident and being seen and it's not berating or belittling their condition or their ability. It's instead empowering it. It's giving them a platform, recognition, and space that you don't have to worry about your psychological strength to endure being in an uncomfortable environment or one not suited for you.

And speaking of environments, you know, you're speaking to that like very interesting. I, I read a great book called The History of Disability, specifically in the U.S. and so fascinated to learn about how disability came about and it's like, it's only, it's created by environment.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: Like disability doesn't exist in Native American tribes because they didn't, their environments never provoked an incident that caused them to have to express a disability. Disability exists to that point that, if stairs are present rather than a ramp, now someone who has a different ability is unable to access or pursue that path. That's because the environment dictated an environment that varied from a universal design where everyone could access that thing. So it's crazy. It's crazy to me and it's a little bit, it's wild to think about because that's what we did. That's what industrialization did. That’s what the world, what everything had to do. And it's not a blame. It's not say we shouldn’t have done that, we should have been more considerate. But it's, it's able to put this dilemma, this situation, this obstacle in context that makes it say, okay, oh, we're really looking at how do we create more ability for people to, to pursue these, this world that's been created now that has environments that aren’t always easily to, to, to access to, to get through. Whether it's physical, being in cities like this, whether it's in physical spaces of gyms, it's now about like, okay, how can we equip you with the knowledge and tools so that when you're in this environment that might not be made or meant for you, you can find ways to find your version of getting through this environment so that what doesn't get highlighted is a lack of ability. Instead, it highlights your ingenuity, creativity in ways to create ability, which then, and your brain tells you your potential is greater than you know, which then instills confidence and the good self-talk and all the good things start to happen. And that's where it starts. That's, I think that's a big part of it. Sorry, just a little soapbox I have about that.

Jillian Curwin: No, that was, you brought up some great… I didn't know that. And that is such a good point that you brought up is the fact that so much of what actually disables us is actually, again, not our bodies. It's the environment that we find ourselves in. And, you know, one of the environments that for a long time, and this is going to hopefully transition seamlessly into the next point, the next conversation, part of the conversation is again, going back to the gyms, and you are certainly changing that.

So, let's talk one of our favorite things, which is Peloton.

Logan Aldridge: Yes.

Jillian Curwin: You said that they called? Like that was kind of what started it, they just called you one day? Like how did this, how did this start?

Logan Aldridge: Instagram DMs. Yeah, Instagram DMs. Yeah. So it's…You know, Peloton is in them in the fitness world, the global fitness world it's, you know, it's the golden ticket. It's the biggest opportunity. It's the best place for a fitness professional to have a career like, it is hands down an incredible opportunity. And, as you can imagine, if it was just like, if they just had like an application site, a page where it's just like, hey, you want to be a Peloton instructor, apply here. Imagine how many people would apply. It would be wild. And, and…

Jillian Curwin: So many.

Logan Aldridge: I was recognizing that… So, the way I, I recognize that this made so much sense was because the way I looked at fitness, the way I looked at the challenge that existed within fitness, what we're trying to do to create true accessibility and inclusion in fitness. Before Peloton, that was my mission. That is, at the core, why I believe I'm on this earth. And, and in a, in a weird way, not to sound so esoteric about it, but we've, I have an opportunity to help make a big impact in that way. And before Peloton, that's what my company was doing. We were recognizing this 10,000 foot view. Look at the industry as a whole. What's going on? You have people living with disabilities that have physical barriers to entry, to living their life again, back to the environment, environments creating, or highlighting, or exacerbating the perspective of their disability. And so how do we, how do we alleviate that? So first, the first consideration was, well, let's say we took out the environment barriers and they could just access gyms. Boom. Okay. Okay. Now the trainers, the general managers, the owners of those gyms, they don't know what to do. Don't, they love it.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: They’re like great, that's awesome. We want every, the, the ethos is always with a gym owner, wWe want everyone coming through that door. I don't care.

Jillian Curwin: Yep.

Logan Aldridge: Overweight, impairment, what-, we don't care. Everyone's welcome. We'll help you get fit and all those sorts of, great. But all of a sudden there's this, pun intended term here, coaching paralysis that happens when someone with a spinal cord injury rolls through your gym in a wheelchair. This, now this general manager, this coach, this trainer goes, oh, I want to, yes, but I'm so nervous. I don't want to injure. I don't want to make things worse. I don't know what to do, what you can or can't do.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: You get this coaching paralysis, this instructor paralysis. And so the real 10,000 foot view is, okay, we need to, first of all, educate and train all trainers, coaches, instructors, therapists, on what a fit, what fitness looks like for different disabilities. Not what rehab looks like, like OTs, occupational therapists, physical therapists, recreational therapists, they get it in a really big way. They get this concept. But it's now how do we tailor fitness programing that is after rehab, rehabilitation, that is after assessment, and just making sure the body is sound. How do we give you a lifelong path to pursuing your health wellness with like, fitness training?

And so it took creating what, what I did before Peloton, an education company to train and certify those individuals that own the gyms, run the gyms, that are the therapists, so that they can work with this population and tell them, hey, yeah, there's actually a plan for you. We can write a 12 week strength plan. We can put you on this fitness goal and get you there. Then you have the bridge you have to build. The bridge is one side, you have all the trainers and all the gyms all over the world to being like, come on. I know, I know now. I'm an…

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: Adaptive certified coach, come on in. Okay. Well, now you have all the people that still are living with that disability and the environment still very much exists. The world is still a difficult place to navigate, to get yourself to and from this facility, or this gym, or whatever. So the epiphany that I was having at this time was like, okay, we've done a great job at education, and it worked really well. It was pulling new athletes in and that population was getting to gyms in a phenomenal way.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: But I recognized, I said, how do you empower the person to recognize that they belong in gyms, they belong on their journey, their pursuit of their fitness goals and development? You have to meet people where they are, and this is the biggest concept, I think that I'm really learning and applying in life, in general, not just in fitness. But you've got to show that movement is made for you and meet the individual where they are. And then when it comes to that like, physically talking about that, you need to meet them in the living room, need to meet them where they are at home. And what did the pandemic do? It highlighted how great Peloton is at…

Jillian Curwin: Yupp.

Logan Aldridge: Meeting you where you are with your fitness. And so through that I was, the lightbulb moment was happening, from the accessibility perspective, and it was like this is the way. And I was like, now should we really try to reinvent the Peloton wheel, and try to make our own version of this for people with disabilities? And instead of that, I thought, how can Peloton create this opportunity within their massive, massive reach that they have?

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: And so, I was just pondering that, and I had sent an email and we were just starting to get some traction in the email and I got a DM, a DM on Instagram, and that DM led to, “Hey, we're interested in you.” And then one thing after another, conversation and interview, another interview. And it went on for a while because I think it was unique. It was unique. I saw this, I saw this vision, this opportunity with Peloton, and I wanted to come on as an instructor. But more importantly, wanted to develop this new modality, this new opportunity, adaptive training on their platform. So my, my role was kind of being morphed and created into more than an instructor, into someone that's going to help consult, and lead, and develop adaptive training, not only within the deliverables of what's on the platform, but internally within the company, and accessibility. How do we look at that when we look at the development of the software and the future products?

So that's been, that's been the role so far. And yeah, I couldn't have imagined this opportunity five years ago. I couldn't have, I never would have thought, although I know, I would have known and feel like it's clear that this is the next step. This was the next step. I'm just so honored and grateful that, first of all, they thought of me in this way, in that they recognize that this was not only the right thing to do, but like, the important thing to do. It made sense, frankly, from all perspectives…

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldrige: Not only from the ethics and the morals perspective, but from the business perspective.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: It’s how you grow, it’s how you grow as a platform. Speaking to the statistics earlier, 61 million Americans are just waiting for this content. So, this is the way, this literally is the way. The feedback has been really great. There's so much more to do, just from the perspective of varying abilities.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: How many people is adaptive training trying to speak to? That's a massive population, a massive population of people that see themselves and their ability very differently.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: That's a little bit of the art and the strategic part of how do you create this, and develop it, and grow it, whereas you give a person a place on this platform to have their version of fitness with their consideration, their body and mind. But, frankly, what I'm trying to do is create a universal design product at Peloton, whereas you can take this content, you can learn adaptive training, learn your best version of, you’re a seated athlete, burpees come up, here are like three really good options, and you learn through a seated program, these options of burpees. And hopefully through that you're not only developing the movement patterns in your confidence through the movement patterns, but which is just developing your strength which is all great, we are developing the psychological benefits of being confident in like, your version. Now you know your version, it's not a scaled version, it's not a modification. It is the standard.

Jillian Curwin: Right.

Logan Aldridge: It is your, your best version. That is the prescribed way that you get this movement done, always. And you got some accountability to hold yourself to there, you know, whether that's the end position is hands up overhead clapping like, with the burpee or something, or it's like hands all the way to the floor as you hinge forward to lower your body, whatever it is, you have like, accountability in that now. And so the universal aspect of that is then, down the road, it's not meant to just keep you in this silo of adaptive training.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: Universal meaning you have everyone accesses everything and it's all, and it benefits everyone. So then the goal would be you love another instructor's classes on Peloton, well now you can go take it.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: Because when they're doing whatever, you've maybe learned in my class and that comes up, you go to this, I go to this version. I’m a seated athlete doing Adrian's class and when he's doing lunges, I know to be doing, you know, alternating overhead presses or, or dip holds, you know, on squats or something like that. So you find ways, it's really teaching the philosophy, the methodology of adaptive training through experience on the platform so that the universal design can unfold, which means you can go anywhere, you can take any class, you can do anything on the platform.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm. What you just described sounds so revolutionary, particularly to the fitness industry because again, it seems to be marketing towards a so… one like, type of body which is non-disabled, which is, you know, strong, yet like, it's very like, one type of body that people think belongs in fitness. So what you're describing is so revolutionary, and yet is so simple, and is what I've been trying to, also like through my platforms, like talk about with Peloton, is that like you know… I can't use the Peloton bike or the Peloton tread, yet. I do think it'll be possible one day.

Logan Aldridge: That’s right.

Jillian Curwin: I'm manifesting that.

Logan Aldridge: That’s right, that’s right.

Jillian Curwin: But like, when I joined the platform, it was purely just to do the strength classes, purely just to do the strength classes. And you know, like and I'm thinking like, there are so many people who can't use what the… products, but can still be a part of this community, can still belong in fitness, can still use, you know, find ways to work out on their own, using whatever equipment they have. I think it goes back to like that, universal like, I can't do, there are certain things that even as someone who's ambulatory and has four limbs, that I can't physically do. So then it's learning from you, from the other instructors, how to adapt and how to make it work for me. Or, once I have like, the kids bike, okay, they say put my resistance at one level, I don't know what my resistance says, but I know what it feels like.

Logan Aldridge: Right.

Jillian Curwin: So I go by feel. So like, figuring out how to do that. Same thing like, on outside or running or walking, like I don't, my speeds are going to be completely different even for a beginner, because my legs are a lot shorter. So knowing that, okay, she just says go fast, go fast, doesn't have to be the exact speeds. And I think that's like so, like it doesn't have to be exactly what they're saying. It has to be what’s exactly right for your body.

Logan Aldridge: 100%

Jillian Curwin: And I think that's what you're absolutely, you're showing at Peloton.

Logan Aldridge: It's so much, you're exactly right. And, and not to get into the weeds of it, but what you're describing is so important. And that comes to intentional, descriptive language when it comes to cueing as an instructor here at Peloton. And you'll notice in any of my content, able-bodied or adaptive, in any of it, in my intro I say my name, what this class is, and then we talk about what I'm wearing.

Jillian Curwin: Yupp.

Logan Aldridge: That's not because I'm like, super into fashion and I love style. Which, maybe I am actually, I'm super into fashion, but that's just to lend itself towards descriptive language for accessibility. You know, low vision or blind members, and also those that are just trying to understand the environment and maybe not be looking at the screen all the time. So it's a, little things like that.

And then when you're in the workouts, not speaking to, exactly your point like, stay within this range, instead describe how it feels.

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: What does it feel like? What does this feel like? Because everybody is in a different place and has a different ability and that's regardless, not even thinking adaptive or disabled versus abled no, that's just it. Literally every physical body has a different sensation of what that is, of what hard is, of what a ten out of ten is. So, we have to create these cueing descriptive languages that allows everyone to say, “Oh, okay, I see exactly how this should feel now. I understand,” and that's been really fun to do at Peloton. And you're constantly, you're constantly trying to make sure, at least from my perspective and I know this is the case with many other instructors, that you're painting a, a brush with your class planning and who your, your audience you're speaking to, that considers the different levels of fitness and the different abilities of where people are. And I think that's the part where, you know, sometimes I have to remind myself, especially in this adaptive space, when I'm leading these adaptive classes, the reality, which is you can't be everything to all people, and that's specifically people with disabilities. And, so much in my heart I want to be the yes man. I want to say yes, yes, yes, everyone's welcome. You can do it. You can do it. Yeah. Come on. But, when it's through this lens, I'm doing my best to create accessible content that considers the range of, you know, you're a Paralympian versus the range of you've never moved before. This is your first attempt at pursuing exercise and movement for your health. So how do we take that broad spectrum and create that inclusive workout environment? So, that's the biggest, I wouldn't say challenge, but opportunity with the way that we instruct, how can we make sure everyone, and that's the definition of creating the inclusive environment. You can do that and those, those individuals you can ask after class, did you get a good workout in? And a person whose first workout they've ever done, person who's a former gold medalist, Paralympian, or collegiate athlete or something, they're like, “Yeah, great workout. Got the sweat on, got the heart rate up, respiratory rate up, good muscles burning. Good job.” That's a win. That's what we're after. So we don't have to overcomplicate it, but we need to make sure people are seen, seen and thought of.

Jillian Curwin: Yes.

Logan Aldridge: That's what lends itself towards empowerment. That's what allows you, and it doesn't have to always be laser focus, but you need to recognize who's taken this content, what audience you're speaking to, and speak to them. And that's been a big part of, of my role.

Jillian Curwin: In the years since you've been at Peloton and you’ve develop the adaptive strength training program, and have been teaching both adaptive for standing and for seated classes, as well as regular, traditional strength and cardio classes, which kick my butt…

Logan Aldridge: Whoo, me too.

Jillian Curwin: What has been the response from the disabled community?

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, great question, and the most important to me. Like, when we were launching this, I said we have to put out surveys. There has to be, when I first, first launched the first adaptive training, the fact that there was adaptive training on the platform, I was like we need feedback, feedback from existing members, of current members that are going to take this, thisis their first exposure to what adaptive content is, as well as understanding who identifies as an adaptive athlete and what's their experience. And the survey results were phenomenal, really, really good, really positive. But then also, you know, I have, I'm so connected in this fitness space, and adaptive fitness outside of Peloton. So I have so many folks like yourself that I've met through this world of fitness that I ask, and I, and I try to say, I like your feedback, unbiased feedback. I want people to give unbiased feedback.

And then recently, you know, first example, our most recent example that I think was really great was the, this collaboration with the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation. That was, to me, a big opportunity to create some involvement from the wheelchair community and get folks, specifically spinal cord injury individuals, involved in recognizing this program and trying to develop bounce questions off of them. Like we had great, great collaborative meetings. We really got to discuss all the details from everything from high level to low level, what does a quad need, how can we utilize meditation on the platform, meditation and breathwork with Ross Rayburn to give someone who may be a quad, so no use of arms or legs, give them the ability to tap in and tune in to this platform and reap the benefits from things like breathwork, or even meditative states. So, that coupled in with like, a seven day program, again allows yourself to access population, taking into consideration the caregiver, to serve the needs of that seated athlete, but then help involve the needs of the caregiver, and give them like, a structured, weekly program that will help develop strength that directly correlates to like real world actions and tasks of helping their loved one, or patient, a person they work with or care for, as effective as possible. And to me, that's like the ding, ding, ding.

Jillian Curwin: Mmmhmm.

Logan Aldridge: That was like, ahhh, yeah, yeah. You help the adaptive athlete by also helping the caregiver in this way. What an individual that is normally neglected most of the time in this world of living life. And now we're really honoring them and say, and that's what November is, National Caregiver Month. So it was so cool to launch that in this month, to have the support of so many folks from the board and so many athletes with the Reeve Foundation, be a part of that program and then, you know, they're going to come, they're going to come do a class in person on December 3rd on International… when is this launching?

Jillian Curwin: This will just come out right after.

Logan Aldridge: This is, yeah. We'll have just done the first ever, first of many, in-person adaptive classes. So we'll have seated athletes in-studio with me in Studio Three. And so, that all just happened, once this comes out, and that’s going to be awesome, that's gonna be so cool. That’s changing the game, that's flipping the script, that's, that's literally doing, taking action with what we said we were going to do at Peloton. And I think it's so important.

Jillian Curwin: That's amazing, and I'm so excited to see that because I think it is so important, not just to see you on the stage leading the classes, but to see other disabled individuals taking the classes, to see it like, in studio. That is, that's going to be I'm, I'm like, that's amazing. Like, that's going to be amazing.

Logan Aldridge: Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's really, really exciting. And I think it's going to open up the opportunity for what can be done at Peloton in a big way. And, you know, I think the world, the whole world, everything's changing. You know, how Peloton operates because we're coming out of the pandemic is really shifting. And so I think we'll see exciting new things at the way in which Peloton does things, the way in which hopefully I'm able to help this, this offering reach more people, hopefully will continue to see it incorporated, here in studio and outside of the studio. So more to come on that.

Jillian Curwin: I, for one, cannot wait.

Who do you look up to?

Logan Aldridge: Ohh, my, you know, I look up to my family, really, you know, because they've been, they've been in, and I don't mean for that to sound like a blanket statement or anything, but like, I, you know, I moved up here in last January. Before that, I lived all of my life in North Carolina. I traveled a ton for work and for opportunities, been all over the country, all over the world. But home base was always home base, Raleigh, North Carolina, where all of my family is from. And, you know, as I have these sorts of conversations and opportunities to chat on podcasts and all this stuff, and reflect, look back at my life and the things that have unfolded and come to fruition, I have to revere my family, my mom, my dad, my brother, specifically immediate family like them, literally, because without them and the courage and mentality, the approach they had with OK it’s just an arm, you know, it's, Logan's going to be Logan. We're going to, we're going to like, we're not going to coddle him. We're not going to, we're not going to just, we’re just going to let him figure it out. We let him figure it out. And I'm so thankful that that was the way, and still is the way, frankly, to this day. So in a big way, I look up to my brother, I look up to my mom, and I look up to my dad.

And they are three very different people. They’re three pretty, I mean obviously physically, they're very different people. But like…

Jillian Curwin: Yeah.

Logan Aldridge: Very different personalities, very different ways in which I interacted with them, or supported me through, you know, this new normal of life after the amputation. But like, gosh, I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky. And I think that's important to say, because I think oftentimes I get comments on social media and stuff and they’re like, how do you stay so motivated? Or so inspiring? How are you always like, Gosh, I don't want to go to the gym today, but you sure did. And it's, its not me. It’s coming from, it's because I'm so fortunate. I had such a fortunate upbringing. I had such an incredibly privileged support group. I had such, so many people that were there for me in ways that most people don't get. And I recognize that. I recognize that's not normal to, to be so, so well-supported and have it, whether with or without unforeseen incident, an accident, a thing that happens, where you do need people to come together to create that support. It was always there for me. So I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky. I look up to my family in such a big way.

And, you know, I've never been like, super sentimental about, like, family. But, you know, once you're away, then you realize. And so it's like, every moment, every time I do get a few days off, I'm like, oh my God, can I go home? Can I go home and see my family? And also, I've got a niece now.

Jillian Curwin: Awww.

Logan Aldridge: My brother and sister-in-law had their first, and their second is due in like a month. So yeah, I never, I mean, I know, you know, when you have a child in your family, you become obsessed with that little thing.

Jillian Curwin: Yes.

Logan Aldridge: And I've watched some friends do it with, you know, their families, little child. Now I get it. I totally get it. Now that happened to me and I'm just Uncle Logan. And this Uncle Logan, all he wants to do is hang out with my little niece, Ashton. So love it, love it. Family means so much. And maybe that just is a sign of me like, getting older, and a little bit more mature, and recognizing the value and importance of quality family time. Because to me, there's nothing else that matters more than that. And you know, if you know my story, you know my background, you know what “it’s just an arm” means to me. And who said it? My mom said that to me in the ambulance. You know, I'm a mama's boy in that sense, for sure. So, I love my mom, and my dad too, such great role models for me and yeah, people I always aspire to be more like.

Jillian Curwin: Love that.

Are there any questions I have not asked that you would like to answer?

Logan Aldridge: Oh, no, not, no, not really.

Jillian Curwin: Okay.

Logan Aldridge: You know, you could ask me anything, but I love that. I love this conversation, I love this context. And I hope, for your audience, it provides some insight, some clarity maybe as to who I am, what I'm doing at Peloton, and, and why I am there, you know. It's super cool, I'm so thankful, it's an honor to be amongst these frickin all-star, celebrity Peloton instructors. I still, to this day, I can't believe when I'm in the green room and, you know, Robin and Adrian…

Jillian Curwin: I was gonna say, do you still get starstruck?

Logan Aldridge: Yeah, yeah. Every day I'm like, oh, my god. And they're lovely. They act like it's no big…and it’s not, they're all just humans. They're all just people. But I am just such a fan, you know? I'm just such a, just, I'm a fan. So I'm just like, this is incredible. So I hope, I hope this podcast sheds some light on what, what's happening at Peloton, what I'm trying to do. But also with me, that it's an honor to be there and to be amongst those, and to be on that platform. But it's not about me. It's not about Logan, the first adaptive instructor. No, I don't care about that title at all. It means a lot. It matters. It matters to the community. It's a big part of being seen and represented. But I'm trying to carry the torch for everyone. I want everyone who sees itself differently to be represented and seen here. And I want to continue to create this content that focuses on showing that we see you, we see you, we see every person, you're thought of, you're considered, and you're brought into the fold. That's what I'm trying to create, because I think that's, that's how we, that's how we win in a big way. And that's the right thing to do. And it's the way that creates the best, it’s literally is the motto of the brand: Together we go far. Right?

Jillian Curwin: Yes.

Logan Aldridge: And this is, this is truly emphasizing togetherness and how do we grow what together means? And I think this is absolutely the step that they needed to take. They're taking it. I have full support. We're getting great feedback and I encourage. So, any listeners to, you know, very much involved in the disability community, being an advocate for this space, please hit me up on a DM or when, however you can reach out. Please take the content. Take the content on the Peloton app and let me know what you think. Feedback. I love feedback. Direct it to me, bring it right to me. Good, bad, the ugly, all of it. I, I want it all. I love criticism, constructive, hopefully, please. Constructive criticism. But if not, that's fine too. But I want it all. That's the only way I get better. I have a thirst for knowledge. I don't know what I don't know. So please let me know. I want to keep getting better and make it better for everyone.

Jillian Curwin: And if people wanted to DM you and follow you, which they totally should, where can they do that?

Logan Aldridge: Oh yeah, great question. Forgot to mention that part. My name's Logan Aldridge, and my Instagram handle, that's the best platform to reach me on, is @aldridgelogan. So just last name, first name, Aldridge Logan on Instagram.

Jillian Curwin: And I will link to that in the show notes. So go follow him. Again, check out the platform. It's amazing. I'm not just saying that because I've been a member of it for two years. It really is incredible and it, again, is accessible to the disabled community. It is.

Logan, this has been an amazing conversation. Thank you so much for coming on, for sharing your story, for talking with me all things Peloton. The final thing I do, it's like a little bit of an icebreaker. I know they're supposed to be at the beginning, but I like them at the end…

Logan Aldridge: Love it.

Jillian Curwin: And this is my podcast so I can do that. So I have five categories and I just want to hear your favorite in each one.

Logan Aldridge: Okay, let's go.

Jillian Curwin: Favorite book.

Logan Aldridge: Oh, that's a good one. The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

Jillian Curwin: Good one.

Logan Aldridge: Love that book.

Jillian Curwin: Favorite TV Show.

Logan Aldridge: TV show. Oh. Oh, my gosh. Undercover Boss. I cry every time.

Jillian Curwin: Yes. Favorite drink.

Logan Aldridge: Favorite drink? Whole milk.

Jillian Curwin: Interesting one. Okay, okay. Favorite piece of advice you've ever given.

Logan Aldridge: Um, it's really not for me. It's just a quote, but it, the advice that it instills, I think, is the most profound. That's, “Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.”

Jillian Curwin: Love that. And the last one, favorite piece of advice you've ever received.

Logan Aldridge: Oh, nothing is as big of a deal as you think.

Jillian Curwin: That’s a perfect note to end on. Again, Logan, thank you so much. The final, final, final thing I have to ask, and I know we have to wrap this up really quickly. So it's like, perfect timing, is just to remind my listeners in your most badass voice possible that height is just a number, not a limit.

Logan Aldridge: Love that.

Jillian Curwin: No, you got to say it. I want to hear you say it.

Logan Aldridge: Oh! Height, height is just a number, not a limit, that's for sure.

Jillian Curwin: Always Looking Up is hosted by Jillian Curwin and edited and produced by Ben Curwin. Please make sure to rate, review, and subscribe and follow on Spotify so that you never miss an episode. Follow me on Instagram @jill_ilana and the podcast @alwayslookingup.podcast for updates and check out my blog JillianIlana.com for more content about what it is like to be a little person in an average sized world.

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